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11:36 pm
August 8, 2010
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Gallo
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Hello friends I'm getting ready to submit my CC paperwork to the state. I have been asking a lot what people carry, what holster IWB or OWB, and if they even carry or just do it to exercise their 2nd amendment right.
What is your night stand gun; what is your carry gun? What caliber? What compromise, if any, do you make when you carry?
I have an XD9 for the night stand and a 12 gauge shotgun in the closet with OO buck shot. I still haven't made-up my mind between a pistol or revolver for CC.
Thanks for your suggestions.
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5:34 am
August 9, 2010
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Floridian
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I carry a S&W 642 small frame stainless .38 spl +P, 5-shot snub-nose revolver and keep it handy at home along with an extra 5 rounds in a speed loader.
I like the snubbie because it is fool proof, 100% reliable and easy to conceal. Thus, I carry it often. It has a good power to size ratio. I have an inexpensive thumb-break suede leather holster that I wear on the inside my belt, but outside the waistband of my pants, with an untucked shirt over it. Otherwise, I have a De Santis pocket holster for pocket carry in a jacket or loose pants.
I don't like the snubbie because it has a snappy recoil and is not too fun for target practice. I hope I don't need more than five rounds to get out of a bad situation, but I am good at avoiding bad situations and don't worry about it.
I also keep a sawed off 12 gauge ready in the gun locker. Other than that, the rest of my arsenal is locked separately from the locked ammo. I don't keep extra loaded guns around with children in the house.
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7:50 am
August 9, 2010
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Jarhead
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|  Diamond Apple | posts 2326 | |
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I have an old model 36 Smith in my night stand, under my bed is a Mossberg 500 with a short barrel with tactical light attached, a few steps away in my closet on a shelf is a Glock 17. I carry the Smith because it light, concealable, dependable and +p 38 hollow points are a good defence round.
That new 103038 Smith Callo linked to on another thread caught my eye, I may retire the old 36.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/cat…..s_id=62622
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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5:31 pm
August 9, 2010
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EN
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During the summer I carry a 1911 Colt Commander, Series 70, in a milt Sparks Summer Special (IWB). I may change it to my .45 XD compact, but that's hard to do in California so for now I'll stick with the Commander. My nightstand gun is a .45 XD tactical with a Streamlight Rail Mounted Tactical light. Behind my bedroom door is either an Remington 870 twelve gauge loaded with five rds of #4 Buck in winter and #7 shot in summer, or my Marlin 94 in with ten rds of .44Special/Mag, depending on how I see things.
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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5:34 pm
August 9, 2010
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MW
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|  Golden Apple | posts 1622 | |
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I have an XD9 for the night stand and a 12 gauge shotgun in the closet with OO buck shot. I still haven't made-up my mind between a pistol or revolver for CC.
We do have something in common! I have a Springfield XD9 in my nightstand (complete with flash light on rail) and a mossberg 500 tactical SG in my closet. I've got home defense rounds in it but i've got a bandolier of 00 and 000 and slug in on my bed post. I carry a .38 snub CC, mostly because of how light and concealable it is. If its not comfortable I wont carry it. anyhoo, we've had the debate over semiauto vs revolver many times hear. There are good reasons for both and I have no idea which to say is best. It truly is up to the carrier!
p.s. I still love you, Gallo, even if you are a gubment operative.
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All the kings horses and all the kings men won’t be able to put the empire together again. -anonymous
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5:58 pm
August 9, 2010
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Marblesonac
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Be careful of what you devulge on websites. Operational security should be observed at all times in all places.
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Stop bitching and start a revolution!
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7:19 pm
August 9, 2010
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Gallo
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MW,
I'm your nemesis. Identical gun taste but on opposite side of the conspiracy spectrum.
What is it about snub that makes it more concealable than say a Kel-Tec PF9 which is thinner? Is it the round form of the revolver vs the more rectangular shape of the pistol?
Thanks.
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8:32 pm
August 9, 2010
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MW
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Be careful of what you devulge on websites. Operational security should be observed at all times in all places.
Thats great advice.
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All the kings horses and all the kings men won’t be able to put the empire together again. -anonymous
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8:37 pm
August 9, 2010
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MW
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What is it about snub that makes it more concealable than say a Kel-Tec PF9 which is thinner? Is it the round form of the revolver vs the more rectangular shape of the pistol?
For me, a semiauto is not quite as reliable. Like 98% vs 99%. I have owned many keltecs and I like them, but I love the idea of not ejecting rounds everywhere when I fire; I like being able to use hollow points without the worry of a misfeed, like the grip and feel of a revolver and just plain like the way it feels on my hip or ankle. The ultra lite j frame is just awesome in my book. And a .38 +P Hp is a great SD round too! Additionally, I've trained extensively with speedloaders… i wouldnt recommend carrying a revolver as CC unless the carrier has trained well with speedloaders.
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All the kings horses and all the kings men won’t be able to put the empire together again. -anonymous
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7:42 am
August 10, 2010
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Jarhead
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Post edited 7:47 am – August 10, 2010 by Jarhead
Identical gun taste but on opposite side of the conspiracy spectrum.
There is no left wing conspiracy per se, just as there is no vast right wing conspiracy (Hillary Clinton) it's a movement. Are there people who get together to discuss what is best for them and in their minds the world? You bet. The left is ahead of the right in this aspect.They have all but taken over education, they have written books, given speeches, taught courses and yes gathered in "think tanks" to make their plans. This movement is well over one hundred years old in this country. Many ideas of both Hitler and Mussolini came from progressive writings in the U.S. Do international bankers meet to make global plans? Duh…Does the NRA have meetings to plan ways to protect the Second Amendment?…. No great secret conspiracy here. Calling it a conspiracy gives it a "black helicopter…tin-foil-hat" tone and opens us to ridicule, just as Hillary was with her vast right wing conspiracy remark. Even people on our side are turned off when we start talking of conspiracies (Gallo,Druid) and it gives the left a big advantage. We are unable to warn people of what is happening without be thought of as a bunch of nuts.
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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10:53 am
August 10, 2010
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Sourdough
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Jarhead said:
Identical gun taste but on opposite side of the conspiracy spectrum.
There is no left wing conspiracy per se, just as there is no vast right wing conspiracy (Hillary Clinton) it's a movement. Are there people who get together to discuss what is best for them and in their minds the world? You bet. The left is ahead of the right in this aspect.They have all but taken over education, they have written books, given speeches, taught courses and yes gathered in "think tanks" to make their plans. This movement is well over one hundred years old in this country. Many ideas of both Hitler and Mussolini came from progressive writings in the U.S. Do international bankers meet to make global plans? Duh…Does the NRA have meetings to plan ways to protect the Second Amendment?…. No great secret conspiracy here. Calling it a conspiracy gives it a "black helicopter…tin-foil-hat" tone and opens us to ridicule, just as Hillary was with her vast right wing conspiracy remark. Even people on our side are turned off when we start talking of conspiracies (Gallo,Druid) and it gives the left a big advantage. We are unable to warn people of what is happening without be thought of as a bunch of nuts.
I agree 100%………every time I see the word "Conspiracy" I always substitute the word "Agenda".
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LOOK: Start to get wrapped around the idea that it was over in the Fall of 2008. This is just the dying quivers. Stop waiting for "IT" to happen, "IT" already happened.
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11:05 am
August 10, 2010
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Gallo
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There is a certain inherent perception by the sheeply that forums like this one are full of gun totting, government hating, radicals waiting for the end of times. The reason is that here we discuss current events that mostly go under the main stream media radar. We discuss ways to prepare for what people don't want to think may happen. We talk a lot about real freedom and people are afraid of freedom and prefer safety. The sheep will be sheep and one can only point them in the right direction. It's up to them to choose their path.
By the way I don't think anyone here is nut.
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11:15 am
August 10, 2010
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Jarhead
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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11:54 am
August 10, 2010
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jamie
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 Just came today. It's no quick draw rig but it has plenty of room for my Hi-point 40 S&W. Zippered closures and velcro mag holders. Leather, as well the pocket hide the outline of the pistol. I think it's going to be a great rig for the "Grey Man" scenario. I also like the wide belt.
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11:19 pm
August 10, 2010
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Gallo
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Jamie,
That seems very practical and discrete.
MW,
Do you prefer a shrouded or exposed hammer on a snub? I can see how firing a snub single action would be more accurate, but does the benefit of a snag free double action out weigh the SAO benefit?
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6:07 am
August 11, 2010
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Floridian
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Post edited 6:12 am – August 11, 2010 by Floridian
Gallo said:
Jamie,
That seems very practical and discrete.
MW,
Do you prefer a shrouded or exposed hammer on a snub? I can see how firing a snub single action would be more accurate, but does the benefit of a snag free double action out weigh the SAO benefit?
Accurate snubbie is sort of an oxymoron anyway.
I like the shrouded hammer because it is snag free and almost impossible to be accidentally discharged. The safety factor (fool proof ) is important to me. With a little practice, dry fire and at the range, you get used to the trigger pull.
I also agree with the reliability comments of MW. Jammed rounds are not acceptable if it comes to engaging a carry weapon.
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6:38 am
August 11, 2010
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MW
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MW,
Do you prefer a shrouded or exposed hammer on a snub? I can see how firing a snub single action would be more accurate, but does the benefit of a snag free double action out weigh the SAO benefit?
Shrouded. I carry something similar to this:
I also keep a good buckknife and a couple led flashlights in my nightstand along with brass knuckles.
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All the kings horses and all the kings men won’t be able to put the empire together again. -anonymous
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12:20 am
September 18, 2010
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jadalina
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Carry gun is a Glock 21… depending on what I'm wearing, it's either in a thigh holster or in my purse. Not a lot of concealed carry options for the ladies in dresses, yanno? It would be easier to carry something more compact, but I apparently suffer from low self esteem or willy envy or something Freudian and therefore must carry something ungirly.
On my side of the bed is a Mossberg 500 Persuader 12 gauge with pistol grips fore and aft, front light mounted on an 18" barrel, loaded with slugs. On his side is a Remington sompinorother 12 gauge with a 60 ft long barrel. Big freakin hunting shotgun that seriously needs to be returned to the gun cabinet, IMO, but I made fun of the .22 pistol he'd kept in the nightstand so he hauled The Beast in to shut me up.
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8:01 am
September 18, 2010
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Crab Apple
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Jadalina,
Love that mossberg persuader but I have a Knoxx recoil suppression stock on mine NOT the knoxx NRS (No Recoil Supression)
If that Glock 21 feeds the Freudian need the Knoxx "Spec Ops" stock will REALLY do the trick. The COOOL factor will make that remington wither in comparison.
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9:05 am
September 18, 2010
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Jarhead
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Post edited 9:06 am – September 18, 2010 by Jarhead
On my side of the bed is a Mossberg 500 Persuader 12 gauge with pistol grips fore and aft, front light mounted on an 18" barrel, loaded with slugs.
Have you fired that beast? I put a pistol grip on my 18" Mossberg and took it back off after the first time I fired it. Mine was pistol grip only and with 3" magnum buckshot it would almost jump out of my hands.
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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