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11:03 pm February 26, 2011
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 924 | |
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So I went to Lowes today to buy gardening soil and seeds, etc… I had my little girl with me, and as I was unbuckling her from the car seat, with my head stuck inside the back door and my ass to the world, this topic came to mind. I stuck my head out and checked the surroundings… all clear but for a moment I caught myself in condition white.
Without alertness, a gun is useless.
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11:11 pm February 26, 2011
| MW
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|  Golden Apple | posts 1622 | |
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Good point. Check and double check, then check again!
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All the kings horses and all the kings men won’t be able to put the empire together again. -anonymous
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11:23 pm February 26, 2011
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 942 | |
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If you got that out of this thread I'd count it as a huge. Hat tip to Montgomery Worthington. 
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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7:05 am February 27, 2011
| pm97
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 715 | |
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Without alertness…….you're dead
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7:46 am February 27, 2011
| px4storm
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|  Fresh Fruit | posts 28 | |
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this thread has been great so far – thanks to everyone!
I grew up in NYC, been through some of the nastiest, scariest "hoods" there, in the middle of the night. Those experiences ingrained something within me – always staying alert, always look around, always be aware of your surroundings and don't look like an easy victim. This nanny state of NJ that I live in has made it illegal to pump your own gas (imagine that BS). so when I'm having my gas pumped I usually sit in the car, or I take the opportunity to clean up the mess in the car (small kids make big messes). Since I always turn off the ignition when filling up, I take the keys and put them in my pocket. Even when cleaning the car, I take moments to look around and make sure of my surroundings.
since this socialist state is pretty much a "no issue" state when it comes to CCW (they claim they are a "may issue", but in reality for any Joe Average – it's "no issue") I am only allowed to have a car in the trunk of my vehicle, only when going to or coming from a range, gun shop or gunsmith, only locked, unloaded with ammo in a separate box. Thus for defense, I'm limited to just my folder that's always in my pocket. after SHTF or if we beat them in this lawsuit that's in progress right now, that may be a different issue.
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8:17 am February 27, 2011
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 860 | |
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MW
Yep I like your scenario posts…. good exercises.
As stated by previous posts, the key here is situational awareness, prevention.
However this post of yours got me thinking about stuff that I did not like to see in myself. Everyone CAN let their guard down or hey…bad guy COULD put a round into you from a distance and put you down, maybe unconscious. In your scenario I come to consciousness hearing squealing tires but don't know which direction the vehicle headed off in OR even if my wife was still in the vehicle. Alerting Law Enforcement is about all that can be done in that scenario.
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What I got to thinking about was what if I did see which direction the vehicle departed in and know my wife IS in it? What would I be willing to do to acquire a vehicle in the next 10 seconds to pursue? What does that say about me?
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3:13 pm March 8, 2011
| Nomad2nd
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I'm sitting here wondering when I got married!
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3:21 pm March 8, 2011
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 942 | |
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OK Nomad, just for you:
You stand next to your car pumping gas for $5.79/gallon, the warm summer
wind blows through the cement parking lot and you smile at your MOM who sits in the passenger seat of your 4x4 patiently waiting for you to
finish so that you both can go on a much needed date night. As you turn
away to replace the gas nozzle, you hear rapid footsteps and feel a
sudden warm, fuzzy feeling in your head as your knees buckle beneath
you. In your momentary loss of consiociousness you're aware of the sound
of squealing tires and the throaty burn of V8. You shake your head,
feel blood coursing from your right ear and look up to see that your
vehicle -and your MOM- are gone.
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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3:22 pm March 8, 2011
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 942 | |
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Or:
You stand next to your car pumping gas for $5.79/gallon, the warm summer
wind blows through the cement parking lot and you smile at your DOG who sits in the passenger seat of your 4x4 patiently waiting for you to
finish so that you both can go on a much needed date night. As you turn
away to replace the gas nozzle, you hear rapid footsteps and feel a
sudden warm, fuzzy feeling in your head as your knees buckle beneath
you. In your momentary loss of consiociousness you're aware of the sound
of squealing tires and the throaty burn of V8. You shake your head,
feel blood coursing from your right ear and look up to see that your
vehicle -and your DOG- are gone.
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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3:32 pm March 8, 2011
| MW
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|  Golden Apple | posts 1622 | |
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Grrr… now that would piss me off!
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All the kings horses and all the kings men won’t be able to put the empire together again. -anonymous
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4:02 pm March 8, 2011
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 860 | |
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OR MAYBE……
OK Nomad, just for you:
You stand next to your car pumping gas for $9.79/gallon, the warm summer
wind blows through the cement parking lot and you smile at your MOM who sits in the passenger seat of your 4x4 patiently waiting for you to
finish so that you both can go on a much needed date night. As you turn
away to replace the gas nozzle, you hear rapid footsteps and feel a
sudden warm, fuzzy feeling in your head as your knees buckle beneath
you. In your momentary loss of consiociousness you're aware of the sound
THREE RAPID SHOTS. You shake your head,
feel blood coursing from your right ear and look up to see that your
vehicle driverside window is in small chunks scattered on the parkinglot and there is some guy doing a header out of your car into a pool of gore still twitching -and you hear your MOM say "THIS IS GONNA RUIN PIZZA NIGHT!"
gotta love Mama!
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4:27 pm March 8, 2011
| Nomad2nd
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EN said:
OK Nomad, just for you:
You stand next to your car pumping gas for $5.79/gallon, the warm summer
wind blows through the cement parking lot and you smile at your MOM who sits in the passenger seat of your 4x4 patiently waiting for you to
finish so that you both can go on a much needed date night. As you turn
away to replace the gas nozzle, you hear rapid footsteps and feel a
sudden warm, fuzzy feeling in your head as your knees buckle beneath
you. In your momentary loss of consiociousness you're aware of the sound
of squealing tires and the throaty burn of V8. You shake your head,
feel blood coursing from your right ear and look up to see that your
vehicle -and your MOM- are gone.
I will charge them when they try to return her!!!!!!
Otherwise… I'd be wondering how I got a 4x4 motorcycle, much less a passenger seat!
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8:42 pm March 8, 2011
| Jarhead
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A 4x4 motorcycle with a v8.
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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9:17 pm March 8, 2011
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 942 | |
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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