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4:47 pm August 18, 2010
| jgjgjg
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|  Fresh Fruit | posts 14 | |
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Howdy all,
I'm a mid-40's engineer with a small tribe of kids living in urban Texas. I became more interested in the topic of survival after economic collapse after reading some information on the fall of Rome and looking around at our current situation, the one appearing to have a lot of relevance with the other.
Anyway, i'm here to learn.
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5:39 pm August 18, 2010
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 860 | |
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Welcome to the orchard! There is alot to learn in the archives.
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6:16 pm August 18, 2010
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 730 | |
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LOOK: Start to get wrapped around the idea that it was over in the Fall of 2008. This is just the dying quivers. Stop waiting for "IT" to happen, "IT" already happened.
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7:08 pm August 18, 2010
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|  Golden Apple | posts 1820 | |
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Great to have you jg! go though some of the older posts and you will
find all kinds of great info that is usable for today as well as the
future. I hope you have fun and learn feel free to rant and then have a
solution or just listen to others.
What is wonderful for us is we
have a survivor of an "Economic Collapse" in ferfal. It's not theory
it's real world everyday life for him and his family.
Could you just imagine "ferfal" in the contrived survival scenarios that TV is presenting? Now that would be good TV watching ferfal.
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7:12 pm August 18, 2010
| Marblesonac
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 565 | |
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jgjgjg said:
Howdy all,
I'm a mid-40's engineer with a small tribe of kids living in urban Texas. I became more interested in the topic of survival after economic collapse after reading some information on the fall of Rome and looking around at our current situation, the one appearing to have a lot of relevance with the other.
Anyway, i'm here to learn.
Welcome, but I'm hoping you have some info to contribute as well. I hope your not shy about teaching us what you know.
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Stop bitching and start a revolution!
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9:14 pm August 18, 2010
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|  Core Member | posts 172 | |
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Bienvenido jgjgjg! Tell us about your forum name.
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Liberty in Our Lifetime: freestateproject.org
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10:43 am August 19, 2010
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 942 | |
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Welcom! 
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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11:35 am August 19, 2010
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 715 | |
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Hi JG! I've always thought there were some close parallels with the fall of Western Civilization as compared with the fall of Rome. Could you let us know what material you've been reading up on? I'd like to take a look at it.
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The United States' I grew up in no longer exists…click your heals, Dorothy: you're not in Kansas anymore!!
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7:56 pm August 19, 2010
| jgjgjg
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|  Fresh Fruit | posts 14 | |
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Pete: "the decline and fall of the roman empire". Sobering stuff. Also, Thucydides had significant insight for me, especially the line "each mans morals fell to the level of his circumstances"
Floridian: years ago I discovered that various combinations of my name were always taken. I got tired of my username being "ftard345679" or somesuch.
Marblesonac: me too, but I guess it matters whether I know anything someone else hasn't already said. But, I'll try this as a starter… "Get a hobby." Meaning, figure out something to do that is useful but works for free time activity that may (boy am I going out on a limb) have barterability after a collapse. Examples: all men think they can fix cars, most are wrong. Those who can FIX, rather than swap parts, are useful. Woodworking: I do a lot of purely handtool furniture and decorative box building. When power is intermittent or reallly expensive, I can fix your door after some thug has kicked it in. My neigbhor can't do anything that doesn't have a power cord attached to it. All my neighbors know that when a table leg cracks or a chair breaks, I'm the go to guy. My mother in law can really, really sew. That'll be useful when you can't buy new socks. Until then, the nieces and neigbhors always have something special under the Christmas tree.
Thanks for the warm welcome all!
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1:24 pm August 20, 2010
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 942 | |
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UH OH! Thucydides? Does that mean you're from VD's forum? Good to have you here.
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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2:42 pm August 20, 2010
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Welcome aboard jgjgjg
Floridian: years ago I discovered that various combinations of my name were always taken. I got tired of my username being "ftard345679" or somesuch.
I have the same problem, oddly enough my real name is ftard345679 
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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5:13 pm August 20, 2010
| jgjgjg
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|  Fresh Fruit | posts 14 | |
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EN, nope…just read it on my own. Actually, I picked up Pressfields "Tieds of War" and found it so compelling I chose to go back and read the source material. That, in a different way, was as compelling. The Bible is the only text I've seen next to Thucydides that provides such a clear, distressing, and sobering portrait of human folly.
The episode where the Spartans sue for peace and Athens, in their pride, rejects, is something every american should be forced to read quarterly. Someday, we will be Athens to somebody's (Chinas?) Sparta and given our current character will make the same grievous error.
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7:51 am September 19, 2010
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|  Seedling | posts 1 | |
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Many people talk about the collapse of the Roman empire in relation to Americas coming 'readjustment' ;actually I have always thought the US situation has more in common with the collapse of the Spanish empire
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