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4:15 pm
May 5, 2010
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 942 | |
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I've been reading the Greece news obsessively all day. It's like watching a rape in progress and being able to do nothing. Not very productive perhaps, but a good object lesson in what not to do.
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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4:41 pm
May 5, 2010
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|  Golden Apple | posts 1820 | |
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Well got some more buckets. That will get another bag of grain stored. Oh yeah if you guys want to wax your own cheese and have it around for years. I got the wax at rebelbrewers. com. Great service/ price and fast, I may pick up the beer brewing kit they have as well.
Silver has taken a pretty big drop on the Greek bailout announcement. It may pay to give it a look if you haven't already.
Oh yeah 3 dozen eggs to store. $.68 for 12 large eggs. Weather has been a bit odd for around here and it seems to be effecting Mom's chickens and how well they lay.
I'll be splitting off my chives to give to mom and a neighbor. KT, My chives were the ones with purple flowers I don't remember the name of the seeds. They seem to be annuals, and they wintered over. The green shoots coming up look almost like green onions coming up. I may have gotten lucky to find a batch of seeds that like S. Idaho weather. Compared to my mom's chives it's like nite and day. Mine are robust and growing like weeds and her's are still looking kind of wimpy. I don't know why, cause gardening is new to me, and mom has been a gardener for years.
Murphy's law of war if it's stupid but it work. It's not stupid.
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6:58 pm
May 6, 2010
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Yesterday, went on line and bought that deer fence I was thinking about. I'm going to fence in about a 100' x 40' area and then do multiple raised beds throughout. I've put it off for too long; so, last night, took the plunge. Now, for the raised beds, I'm going to use treated lumber, each bed about 1.5ft tall, 6ft wide and don't have it completely figured out how long to make them just yet; but, they're going to be big so I'm going to need a lot of soil to fill them (and good, conditioned soil to boot). Anyone have any input on how to go about this without breaking what little money I have left? Please keep in mind, I live on top of a hill and the soil is hard as a rock; so, I have to import all of it.
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7:50 pm
May 6, 2010
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Pete
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| Bronze Apple | posts 715 | |
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jamie said:
Well got some more buckets. That will get another bag of grain stored. Oh yeah if you guys want to wax your own cheese and have it around for years. I got the wax at rebelbrewers. com. Great service/ price and fast, I may pick up the beer brewing kit they have as well.
Jamie, sounds like you got quite a store going…Like I said: kind of new at this; so, what exactly is 'waxing cheese'? I have lintels, beans, hard winter wheat, dried powder milk, and a few other things stored away in freeze dried superpails. I'd like to add a lot of variety to it but am limited in storage space. Could you kind of elaborate a little on what some of your favorite food stores are?
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The United States' I grew up in no longer exists…click your heals, Dorothy: you're not in Kansas anymore!!
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8:25 pm
May 6, 2010
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|  Diamond Apple | posts 2326 | |
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We have already done a pretty good thread on LTS….. lots of good advice 
http://www.grabtheapple.com/fo…..n/lts-food
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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6:36 am
May 7, 2010
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Waiting on a well digger to come over and replace a submersible pump. The house is on city water, but we have a deep irrigation well. I am going to find out if he knows about any grid-down options for getting water out of the well.
It will be good to have the well working again, but it ain't gonna be cheap. 
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7:46 am
May 7, 2010
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Pete
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| Bronze Apple | posts 715 | |
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Jarhead said:
We have already done a pretty good thread on LTS….. lots of good advice
http://www.grabtheapple.com/fo…..n/lts-food
Thanks, Jarhead: went back there and read the whole thing. I do have some questions so I'm going to go back and reopen that post/add to it.
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The United States' I grew up in no longer exists…click your heals, Dorothy: you're not in Kansas anymore!!
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7:52 am
May 7, 2010
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Jarhead
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Post edited 2:16 pm – May 7, 2010 by Jarhead
Depending on how deep the well is you have a couple of options. One would be to run the well off of a generator. Second lacking a generator or the possibility you won't have electricity soon or you have run out of fuel for the generator and need water you can manually pull the pump, pipe and wire leading to the pump out of the well. Next get a container depending on the well diameter ( a pice of pipe, small enough in diameter to fit inside of your well and caped on the end, that is heavy enough to sink in the water) next tie a rope on it long enough to reach the water. It may be a slow process to get water this way, but this is the way all well used to work. The pipe and rope are cheap but you will need to get them before SHTF. Ask your well repair man what the inside diameter of you well is, you can then buy a piece of pipe and cap the correct size. You will also need to drill a hole in the end opposite of the cap so you can run a bolt though the pipe to tie the rope to.
Pulling the pump can be a pretty hard job in itselff, watch your repairman when he pulls it. When the pump went out on the well at my hunting cabin (600 ft. deep) I built an A frame out of wood to hang a pulley on and used my four wheeler to pull the pump. I doubt the water table in Floridia is near that deep. We have wells in the delt part of Arkansas that are as little as 20 or 30 feet deep.
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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9:00 am
May 7, 2010
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Being in Florida I bet a regular old fashioned hand pump would work, they work down somewhere just below 30 feet. A friend of mine showed me a high tech modern version of the old fashioned hand pump that works down to 250 feet but that cost him about $400.
I have a 220v well pump so I would have to run the generator (or walk to the spring 300 feet) or run 1200 feet of pvc pipe for a gravity feed (Differant spring than the walk to one and I only have 300 feet on hand .)
I should look into a 110v backup pump so I could run it off an inverter, that way if I have a vehicle or solar panel or SOMETHING to charge a 12v battery I could run my well pump. Options are good.
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1:59 pm
May 7, 2010
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Jarhead
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Well pumps draw a lot of amps, probably close to what a vehicle starter draws, so you wouldn't be able to pump much water before your battery went dead, but if you have gas to run a vechile to use your inverter you would have gas to run the generator.
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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2:59 pm
May 7, 2010
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Thanks for the info. I have learned a lot about wells today. For instance my 210 foot deep well has a 4 inch casing and the water table is about 60 feet. It has a submersible 3 hp, 3-phase 220v pump was set at 84 feet deep on a 2 inch pipe. We are going to put in a new single phase 220v 3hp pump, and (I think) that should work with a generator. I know 3-phase is more efficient, but it gets run infrequently, just for irrigation. The old pump was installed in 1971, so it nearly made it 40 years. I am guessing that our well water would be potable untreated, but will ask the well digger what he thinks.
I keep 120+ gallons (3 weeks) of drinking water laid up and have a swimming pool. If we reach a point where we need to haul water up out of the well, then we probably need to bug out.
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11:34 am
May 12, 2010
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| Golden Apple | posts 1820 | |
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Mom bought me a katyden water filter and 3 more buckets. This time I got the buckets at Fred Meyers. If you need Food Grade buckets ask at the bakery counter. So far it's cost only $1.00 per bucket. A little soak with bleach and dish soap takes care of the frostning smell pretty well.
Reorganised My front rooms for for plant shelves and doing some art and crafts. I moved my seating araingement so I am no longer sitting in front of a big picture window. A few more walls in between me and the street.
Got a bigger EMP/Coms and battery Storage box. I'll be able to consolidate 2 boxes down to 1. Moving some food and supplies from the basement and into a closet uptairs in case of flood and also for easy movement to the bugout vehicle.
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8:11 pm
May 12, 2010
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|  Ripe Apple | posts 93 | |
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Post edited 2:13 am – May 13, 2010 by Kansas Terri
Today I relectantly decided against a squeezo. My kids are 16 & 17 and I will not need huge amounts of spagetti sauce forever, and even the used ones were $140 or so.
I might get lucky and find one at a yard sale but canning is not popular in my area. So, I will continue canning tomatos the messy way.
I quit canning a few years back, but, I will have a bumper crop of everything (kids will be selling veggies and there WILL be unsold produce), so I will put stuff up again.
Even the 2 small apricot trees will be producing this year for the first time: late spring frosts killted the blossoms for the last 2 years running. THIS year the trees are loaded: if any more fruit had set I would have to thin them!
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8:24 pm
May 12, 2010
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jamie
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| Golden Apple | posts 1820 | |
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KT set out the pits to dry on the apricots. The meat inside is great and tastes a bit like a cross almonds/pecans. I've not tried cooking or baking with them but they are great as snacks. I like apricots but I used to collect the pits/seeds just to crack them and eat the interiors. Let them dry I believe they carry a bit of poison untilled dried. Please don't hold me to that. Plus they just taste better and not bitter.
Also Real Popcorn isn't unhealthy compared to a many snacks. If not drowning it in real butter and salt , my favorite they can be used as cereals. Alton Brown has a great show at foodnetwork.com on the wonders of popcorn as a food.
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6:37 am
May 13, 2010
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| Bronze Apple | posts 860 | |
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CAREFULL with eating the pits. There are some hybrid trees marketed which DO produce the almonish edible pit BUT normally the pits contain cyanide.
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Cecil replies:
You've got good reason to be afraid, pal. Fruits of the rose family–including cherries, apples, plums, almonds, peaches, apricots, and crabapples–contain in their seeds substances known as cyanogenetic glycosides, which on ingestion release hydrogen cyanide gas through an enzymatic reaction. They can most certainly do you in. Since 1957, Turkey–a big apricot country–has reported nine cases of lethal poisoning from apricot seeds. Unfortunately, victims of such poisonings have a habit of kicking the bucket before doctors have a chance to ask them how many seeds they've eaten; in addition, the amount of amygdalin–the most important cyanogenetic glycoside–varies from species to species, and since the poisoning does not involve a direct transfer of cyanide from one place to another, "lethal dosages" of these various seeds are hard to pin down. Use the following as guidelines: (1) bitter almonds contain by far the greatest amount of amygdalin, and it takes 50-70 of them to kill an adult, 7-10 to kill a child. (2) Ingestion of about a cupful of any of the above seeds is pushing things a bit.
If you've been munching on seeds for years and have never felt any ill effects, you can safely continue to eat them in similar quantities without worrying. Keep in mind, however, that one gluttonous binge will put you away forever. Sub-lethal doses of cyanide gas are detoxified and passed out of the body rapidly, so it's impossible to slowly poison yourself over a period of time. Symptoms of cyanide poisoning are excitement, convulsions, respiratory distress, and spasms. Another warning sign is death, which can occur without any of the other symptoms."
Just sayin…..
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7:28 am
May 13, 2010
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Pete
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Hey Floridian…this is still within the topic thread but it changes the subject a bit. My brother used to live in Florida, would go fishing with him once a year for a few years and the mosquitos and no-see-ums would literally eat us alive once the bug repellant wore off. What did I do today to prepare? My wife works for Avon and they have a decent repellant product that she gets for next to nothing since she's a distributor. Have you been looking at the same? Anyone else have any thoughts? We're going to be spending a lot of time outdoors working in our environments. I live on the edge of Shawnee State Forest and the mosquitos will carry you off if you're not prepared…along with deer and horse flies in particular!!!
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The United States' I grew up in no longer exists…click your heals, Dorothy: you're not in Kansas anymore!!
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8:07 am
May 13, 2010
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Crab Apple
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pyrethrum is made from flowers chrysanthamums I think. You used to be able to buy it at Farm and Country type stores and mix it for spaying on plants or more diluted for on your clothing (it will last through several washings). It will kill ticks before they can crawl under your clothing and other insects as well(but not bees :) 0. I found a make your own on google, never tried to make my own but it could be a valuable skill
http://gardenofeaden.blogspot……thrum.html
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10:40 am
May 13, 2010
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Pete said:
Hey Floridian…this is still within the topic thread but it changes the subject a bit. My brother used to live in Florida, would go fishing with him once a year for a few years and the mosquitos and no-see-ums would literally eat us alive once the bug repellant wore off. What did I do today to prepare? My wife works for Avon and they have a decent repellant product that she gets for next to nothing since she's a distributor. Have you been looking at the same? Anyone else have any thoughts? We're going to be spending a lot of time outdoors working in our environments. I live on the edge of Shawnee State Forest and the mosquitos will carry you off if you're not prepared…along with deer and horse flies in particular!!!
It has long been known in these parts that Avon Skin-So-Soft keeps the no-see-ums off, but it is not as effective for mosquitos. Interesting that Avon has recognized the insect repellent aspect of their skin lotion and came up with a special product for insect repellent.
Today I picked up a used industrial tricycle with 500 lbs capacity (250 lbs rider, 250 lbs cargo).
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12:02 pm
May 13, 2010
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Marblesonac
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Awesome on the Trike, can you give us more details, like make, model and a price?
Thanks
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Stop bitching and start a revolution!
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3:01 pm
May 13, 2010
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Floridian
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Post edited 9:07 pm – May 13, 2010 by Floridian
Marblesonac said:
Awesome on the Trike, can you give us more details, like make, model and a price?
Thanks
$180 on craiglist, average condition, with new tires. SRP is over $400. It was a little overpriced IMO, but the seller said he had other interested buyers. Used trikes are hard to find, not to mention heavy duty cargo models. The seller buys older good quality used bikes at estate and garage sales, fixes them and sells them. 25+ year old bikes are vintage and get a nice premium; he sells those on ebay… Nice little hobby.
Actually, I was looking for a cargo bicycle which would be useful; more mobile than a trike, but much less cargo capacity.
One of these… http://rbikes.com/product/sun-…..6373-1.htm
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