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The Getting out of Dodge Thread

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8:06 pm
May 31, 2010


MW

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Maybe we should just learn Ebonics…

obamaobamaobamaobamaobamaobamaobama

All the kings horses and all the kings men won’t be able to put the empire together again. -anonymous

4:32 am
June 2, 2010


druidhouse

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Coeur d'Alene. make it easy on yourself.

5:50 am
June 2, 2010


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I would really much prefer to stay right here in east Tennessee. That being said, I could find a life in central america.

All the kings horses and all the kings men won’t be able to put the empire together again. -anonymous

4:16 pm
June 18, 2010


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Assuming Social Security is still around for the rest of your life:  The average Social Security check is about $1,200. You can receive that payment while living anywhere in the world. In some countries, you can even have your Social Security check direct-deposited into your local bank account.  5 Places to Retire On Social Security Alone

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2:01 pm
February 11, 2011


Justin Case

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I have a great deal of respect for the AARP, but I wonder how it conducts the research that's behind its recommendations.

AARP found 10 of the best places to retire outside the U.S., using five criteria: the cost of living, housing costs, health care (both quality and accessibility), cultural and recreational options and if there's already an expat community there. They include Buenos Aires, Argentina; Corozal, Belize; Le Marche, Italy; Boquete, Panama; and Cascais, Portugal, as well as five other locales.

The Best Places to Retire Outside the U.S.

Buenos Aires, Argentina

Both scenic and sophisticated, Buenos Aires is often referred to as the "Paris of South America."

"This falls into one of those fantasy places for people," said Ken Budd, the executive editor of AARP magazine.

It's got a lot of museums and restaurants, with beautiful cathedrals and opera houses. And since the country's economic crisis in 2002, it's been a very affordable option. Rents start at $700 a month in some popular expat communities, and you can buy a nice condo for a couple hundred thousand dollars, AARP reports. Plus, it's close to the beautiful beaches of Uruguay.

And let's not forget, Buenos Aires is home of the tango. Ole!

The unvarnished reports from long-time "boots on the ground" would seem to be a better indication of the potential viability of a Plan C bug-out destination than would idyllic impressions obtained from finger-walking through travel brochures provided by the chamber of commerce and statistics provided by the government.

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6:05 pm
February 11, 2011


jamie

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I don't think there will be a lot of good places to go in the world
as this will be a world wide collapse. Probably some that are just less
bad.

I think "Flyover country" USA away from big urban areas.
with good Agriculture, good energy potential, good water and weather are
as good bet as anywhere else in the world.

6:50 pm
February 11, 2011


Sourdough

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I would but my money on the South East Coast of the Great State of Alaska. Unlimited food & Unlimited firewood & Unlimited fresh pure drinking water.

LOOK: Start to get wrapped around the idea that it was over in the Fall of 2008. This is just the dying quivers. Stop waiting for "IT" to happen, "IT" already happened.
 

12:15 am
September 30, 2011


Justin Case

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Here is another article about retiring abroad and some of the things to consider before taking the plunge.

The Challenges of Retiring Abroad

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4:49 am
September 30, 2011


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Post edited 4:54 am – September 30, 2011 by druidhouse


and yet, another reason to like uruquay: south america is on the exact OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE PLANET from china.

i predicted the following scenario a year ago in a PM to a forum member. now it's public so i thought i'd post this opinion piece about the recent pentagon report. although preps are still recommended because we may have another couple years in the u.s., i don't know how much longer than that, and it's the primary reason i don't think the u.s. is ultimately livable. the internal race war that has already begun could be skirted by moving to certain regions where the demographics are favorable. but the u.s. as a whole, as a sovereign nation, population intact, is very much in question. i believe this scenario is absolutely inevitable. the primary reason is because the u.s. military and the american people simply cannot let go of WWII. even the baby boomers who weren't even born yet, grew up on movies of WWII american heroism and it is part of their psyche. as evidence i offer vietnam, the first gulf war, afghanistan and iraq*, none of which made or make any strategic sense whatsoever and only resulted in the senseless killing and maiming of american soldiers. ( far more foreigners too, but they're not my concern). in all of these skirmishes the joint chiefs never wavered an inch from the WWII model of warfare even though it repeatedly resulted in failure and de-facto defeat. even today, september 30, 2011, sixty-six years after the fact we're still bonded to the same, long since futile, tactics and strategy. SIXTY-SIX fuckin' years, man. and please, i don't want to hear about depleted uranium shell casings or GPS navigation. all the latter means is that at some point the entire u.s. navy is going to be lost at sea because they no longer teach celestial navigation because it's too hard for the girls at the naval academy. you know, math, it's hard.

all of the above mentioned excursions i was vehemently opposed to and verbalized my opposition. the knee jerk result of course was the usual name calling: traitor, coward, unpatriotic bastard, love it or leave it you piece of s**t sort of thing. although, how getting american soldiers killed and maimed for no reason at all can be construed as patriotic is beyond me. i think the saying is correct; "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." especially in a democratic republic where vigorous and open debate is all that stands between you and the barbarian hordes. you can only make so many mistakes before the universe says it's time for your nap.

i have to warn you, the concept in this link is simply far too large for 99.99999% of americans to imagine or comprehend, just as 9-11 was too large even for the pentagon to comprehend, despite a plethora of warnings and evidence, and thus a perfectly obvious and easily preventable attack went unaverted, 3000 civilians were slaughtered, and the worst assault in american history on civilians on our own soil was carried out successfully. such is the cost of idealizing the past at the expense of the hard reality of the present. but then most humans view life in the rearview mirror. nevertheless, for most people, reading this will be a complete waste of time. so unless you've got the time to waste, i would advise you to ignore the link.

http://www.generationaldynamic…..hina110828

 

*addendum: i was too young to be cognizant during the korean police action so i did not include it in the list of fool's errands, but it certainly counts.

8:32 am
September 30, 2011


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Druid,

The gist of the article is open source stuff, not much really new there except for the prognostication that China will initiate hostilities in the next 12 to 18 months.

The fact that they are actually serious about total warfare is apparent to see EXCEPT for those in our own government who would welcome Chi-Com students into training and facilities that enemies should not have access to.

I have to disagree with the author on his assertion that the Chi-Coms will invade Taiwan and whack American assets at the same time. The Chinese are patient and will not have to wait long before the USA is unable to project military force around the world….. when the dollar collapses and the Government is concerned with its #1 priority CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS (for themselves) that is when the Chinese will take Taiwan THEN they might even "ASSIST" the US Federal government by "establishing humanitarian order" in places like Hawaii, California, and Alaska…along with the "appropriate" peacekeeping forces.

 

"move arong move arong nothing to see hele."     

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