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2:58 pm
October 2, 2010
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Marblesonac
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Jarhead had a post on some neighbors needing help and were insulted at the help he gave.
I think neighbors are going to be UBER important in the very near future.
Right now at the farm, I've needed help from two different neighbors. One picked up debris (broken water pump, pressure tank, cast iron bathtub) and took them to a recycler in his trailor. Another is letting the guy building my pole barn drive over his fields because that's the only way he can get the ceiling trusses in.
The reason these guys are willing to help me is because I've helped them in various things. Nothing major, just being neighbors.
When the SHTF, these country boys have their act together. Another neighbor watered a newly planted apple tree for a week because I couldn't get down there. He fabricates parts that are not in stock when one needs replaced, previously on F16's, now on A10 Warthogs.
My city neighbors I like a lot. We socialize well together..read that we all like to drink…but with the exception of a few, they will not survive nearly as well, and I don't think I want to be around them as much as the country folks.
Are you a loner, or will you want the help of your neighbors?
In the city, they will need my help because they are totally unprepared and will otherwise be useless leeches.
In the country, they all seem to have a wide variety of strengths that make helping one another a pleasure rather than a pain when the bad stuff goes down.
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Stop bitching and start a revolution!
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8:32 pm
October 2, 2010
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jamie
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I'm taking my neighbor shopping for prep and long-term storage food. Starting with food and saving money, and then adding more info as she asks for it.
Most of my neighbors are pretty typical of Idaho. They go about their lives, but they are right there to help out if you need it.
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10:09 pm
October 2, 2010
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Sourdough
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Most of my neighbors are druggies, I figure to cook them good before I eat them, or just use them for Bear Bait.
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LOOK: Start to get wrapped around the idea that it was over in the Fall of 2008. This is just the dying quivers. Stop waiting for "IT" to happen, "IT" already happened.
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7:55 am
October 3, 2010
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Jarhead
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Sourdough said:
Most of my neighbors are druggies, I figure to cook them good before I eat them, or just use them for Bear Bait.
Yeah, some of mine are too. I don't think I have one neighbor I can count on after the SHTF. I'm the go to guy in the neighborhood, with backhoe, tractor, welders, tools, air compressor, etc,etc. Some are good people but most will be in deep trouble in the event of a collapse. I've agonized in several threads what I will do about them after SHTF. My instincts are to try and help them but as many on this forum have pointed out I wouldn't be able to make much difference and would probably end up jeopardizing my own family. Maybe I'll just shoot em and use em for dog food.
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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2:03 pm
October 3, 2010
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Crab Apple
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Jarhead said "Some are good people but most will be in deep trouble in the event of a collapse."
Depending on how deep the collapse goes and how things evolve…… being the go to guy with resources would enable you to select the good folks to bring into the Jarhead farm if you got to the point of running a farm/ranch AND needed to provide security at the same time.
I plan on bringing family and friends I can count on under my roof if things get real bad. But as we hashed out before …. handouts are a bad idea especially at your door.
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3:12 pm
October 3, 2010
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Sourdough
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LOOK: Start to get wrapped around the idea that it was over in the Fall of 2008. This is just the dying quivers. Stop waiting for "IT" to happen, "IT" already happened.
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3:36 pm
October 3, 2010
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Jarhead
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You bet….load one of them six bys down with preps and come on down.
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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4:01 pm
October 3, 2010
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Marblesonac
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Sourdough said:
Anybody want to take me in………if things get bad…………..
Damn…there goes my plan for YOU to take ME in…
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Stop bitching and start a revolution!
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8:44 pm
October 3, 2010
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jadalina
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My neighbors are a mixed bag. Overall the community (about 1000 total) is made up of good people, mostly farm/ranch types. As with any town though, we have our fair share of trash thanks to some out of town slumlords and the occasional house that gramma died and left to her crackhead grandson.
I had a REAL good neighbor until last month, when his ex wife won custody of the house. Now I have a skank in his place… that's a whole 'nother novel right there.
Since we weren't born and raised here and don't attend church, that keeps the bulk of the locals at bay. I seriously doubt the majority of them would ever consider coming to use for assistance…. plus I tend to keep a VERY low profile with my prepping so as to blend in with the sheep. We do have a few immediate neighbors that I consider friends. None of them are preppers, but one is hispanic raised by an old world mama so she's no slouch when it comes to taking care of business. Her husband and son are also avid hunters. They'd be great allies if the world were to circle the drain. The other is a widow with a son who has Downs Syndrome…. I've been trying to plant ideas in her head about storing up stuff but she's got that mentality where she looks to men to take care of her so it's like trying to plant in a field of granite.
I also have a couple of good cop friends about 20 miles up the road (where I live, everything is 20 miles away, ha) and they are just like me in terms of hoarding… er I mean preparedness… so we've already agreed to have each other's backs should the need ever arise.
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12:43 am
October 4, 2010
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EN
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jadalina said:
've been trying to plant ideas in her head about storing up stuff but she's got that mentality where she looks to men to take care of her so it's like trying to plant in a field of granite.
That made me chuckle. We've all been there. We see people we consider natural allies because they have the most to fear, but they always seem to be the thickest. I did find out this weekend that one of my neighbors has been storing food. Funny guy. He's a VN vet and has a plate in his head. On some days you can tell. He's anti gun, big time liberal. He's retired from the post office. Still, if he's storing food there's hope. The rest assume it's all going to be fine but in their defense they are a very self sufficient group. My son made me laugh yesterday. We were putting a new scope on his rifle and he said, "This is good but we need something for Zombies". It's really starting to buckle in Europe btw. The slow road to hell is getting to its destination.
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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8:20 am
October 5, 2010
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jadalina
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A lot of your neighbors will fool you. Mine think I'm some kind of hippy dippy, tree hugging, greenie eco animal are people too activist for some reason.
Probably has something to do with the fact that I deliberately gave them that idea.
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1:48 am
October 6, 2010
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Nomad2nd
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jadalina said:
A lot of your neighbors will fool you. Mine think I'm some kind of hippy dippy, tree hugging, greenie eco animal are people too activist for some reason.
Probably has something to do with the fact that I deliberately gave them that idea.
I'm not into guns, and go grocery shopping after dark.
I'm just into Motorcycles is all.
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10:12 am
October 30, 2010
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Marblesonac
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Went to a friends house last night and he gets it..wants a gun, has
one months supply of food..knows he needs more. He is active in local
politics but now sees that we are past that helping and will redirect
his focus on his family. Has one in college and 3 more coming up so
money is tight.
Another close friend was there and
She was horrified that he would want a gun. Could you shoot someone?
Just give them what they want. She didn't get that often just showing
you have a gun will deter someone..they will go from his house to hers.
This lady, a school teacher, is totally oblivious to what is
happening. Was shocked to learn what a 99'er was and that all Indiana
Unemployment offices will have armed guards. She has no food in her
house. She didn't want to listen to us tell her whats going on because
she wanted to sleep at night and not be up worrying. She must think if
she doesn't know about it, that it will all get better.
I had too much wine and told her about some of my food preps..what a lapse in opsec!
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Stop bitching and start a revolution!
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11:07 am
October 30, 2010
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Crab Apple
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*deep sigh* mmhmmm alcohol is much more useful IN the bottle (with a rag stuck in the top, I know wine is only like 14% ) for OPSEC purposes.
Don't beat yourself up over it, but be sure the pacifist teacher WILL remember who said they are prepping when she gets hungry and may point the fema JBT your way. BUT that is NOT a new OR unexpected turn of events. You MUST keep separate caches of your preps no more than 1/3 in one place and after TSHTF no more than a weeks supplies on hand exposed to burglars, Sheriffs, other LEO, FEMA thugs ect ect.
It will be much better to argue with the Sheriff until he unsnaps his holster then let him have half of your weeks worth of corn, beans and rice you have exposed in your pantry, THAN having to take more drastic actions because you have ALL your preps exposed to confiscation and don't have the option of "LOSING" the argument.
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2:52 pm
October 30, 2010
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EN
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Hard to say how it will play out with the teacher, but best to assume the worst. Time for her to go toes up.
The important thing is to not compound the problem by talking to her any more about it. Leave it. Maybe she was drinking too much also. My experience with public school teachers is they are the most clueless people on earth. They are to be avoided like the plague. I wouldn't say a word around her ever again. Let her figure things out for herself.
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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4:47 pm
October 30, 2010
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Justin Case
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Marblesonac said:
My city neighbors I like a lot. We socialize well together..read that we all like to drink…but with the exception of a few, they will not survive nearly as well, and I don't think I want to be around them as much as the country folks.
Here is what some middle-class city people in the United States are doing — staring into the abyss as they go through their financial resources (severence pay, unemployment benefits, retirement accounts, real estate and other assets):
Even after an extension of unemployment benefits to 99 weeks, many of those about to go off the program are in a quandary.
Unemployment Benefits: The 99ers
This video begs the question: How have you prepared for your housing situation?
You may have a year's supply of food and enough of an arsenal to mount a good self-defense, but if you lose your home (pick the scenario — can't afford the rent, can't afford the property taxes, can't afford the mortage payment), what are you going to do?
Some homeless people live in their vehicles, some live with relatives or neighbors or "friends of friends" (i.e., kind strangers), some live under bridges, some live in the remote wilderness. I see the USA in a slow decline that will continue for quite some time (i.e., a slow collapse) whether or not we have a sudden collapse due to some shock event.
Since most people will be affected (i.e., you can't have chronic unemployment in the 10 to 20 percent range without affecting everyone), the small community spirit will likely make a comeback as people band together to help each other out more.
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5:16 pm
October 30, 2010
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jadalina
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Post edited 5:18 pm – October 30, 2010 by jadalina
Justin Case said:This video begs the question: How have you prepared for your housing situation?
You may have a year's supply of food and enough of an arsenal to mount a good self-defense, but if you lose your home (pick the scenario — can't afford the rent, can't afford the property taxes, can't afford the mortage payment), what are you going to do?
I think this is a concern that WAY too many people either disregard, thinking that a total collapse means they won't have to make house payments any more, or else it's just beyond the scope of what they're willing to consider as a possibility.
We don't have any problem making our house payment as long as my husband is employeed. If I get laid off, no big deal. If HE gets laid off, we're in trouble. This is a big concern of mine. As I mentioned a little while back, I managed to send in an extra month's payment on the house as a just in case, but it's a drop in the bucket. However, in the very WORST case scenario, where he gets laid off and is unable to find anything and we actually lost the house, I still have my place south of here. The house needs to be demolished, but the property is a nice chunk of acreage, mostly grasslands and wheat fields, and it's 100% paid for. The pastures are leased out to a buddy of mine, which covers the property taxes and various assorted goods out of Mexico, but we have an agreement written in regarding an emergency where I may suddenly need to move back (divorce rates in this day and age, never know, right?). Anyway, we could always park an RV on it, or move a repoed mobile home there if we had to. My family has been on my case (why I have no idea, what do they care??) to sell the place but I think, eh think not.
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5:26 pm
October 30, 2010
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jadalina
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Post edited 5:28 pm – October 30, 2010 by jadalina
oops, wrong section… where's the delete on here?
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5:32 pm
October 30, 2010
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jadalina said:The pastures are leased out to a buddy of mine, which covers the property taxes and various assorted goods out of Mexico, but we have an agreement written in regarding an emergency where I may suddenly need to move back (divorce rates in this day and age, never know, right?). Anyway, we could always park an RV on it, or move a repoed mobile home there if we had to. My family has been on my case (why I have no idea, what do they care??) to sell the place but I think, eh think not.
Smart. My only question would be, how close to Mexico is it? The way things are heading on the border you might want to think about selling it and either paying off your home or getting another place further north. Of course this ain't the greatest time to be selling, but it might be the only time. Historically the Southern border has been just a tad out of control during economic bad times. You seem to have thought this through pretty damn well, so think of my suggestions as another way of looking at it.
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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5:33 pm
October 30, 2010
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Sourdough
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If your name is on the house loan, and they forclosed……….they could get a deficiency judgment, and take the paid for free and clear land.
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LOOK: Start to get wrapped around the idea that it was over in the Fall of 2008. This is just the dying quivers. Stop waiting for "IT" to happen, "IT" already happened.
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