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3:50 am April 7, 2011
| Jarhead
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Post edited 1:31 pm – April 7, 2011 by Jarhead
Time to start those gardens.My indoor sets are coming alone nicely. I planted a green manure crop of wheat last fall in my garden this year was the first time. I just plowed it under yesterday. I wonder how long it will take to decompose enough for me to start setting out my plants and seeds? Do I need to add some nitrogen since decomposing materials use nitrogen?
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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10:13 am April 7, 2011
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|  Bronze Apple | posts 942 | |
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It's snowing here now and you post this? 
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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11:11 am April 7, 2011
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Mrs Crabby doesn't even read this blog and she is taken a que from Jamie and starting a few bowls of lettuce and spinach under my seedling lights.
I have gone a little overboard on the Gurney tree and berry bush planting and have had to sink to the level of sneaking my internet shopping in while she is busy homeschooling …….. now I can sympathize with those PDB with an internet porn addiction   !
How can you have too many fruit trees?
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4:00 pm April 7, 2011
| Jedi
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I tilled the ground the other day, and I'll be planting my first garden today.(I haven't had the space until now) I'm not sure if I went a little overboard with the tilling. Is 500 sq ft too much garden?
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"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." -John Quincy Adams
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4:08 pm April 7, 2011
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It's not too much since you can get rid of what you don't want. It will be a good teacher. Lot of work but potentially a lot of return.
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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4:47 pm April 7, 2011
| pm97
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Anyone have suggestions on a tiller? What's a good brand?
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5:05 pm April 7, 2011
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex… It takes a touch of genius to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstien
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5:59 pm April 7, 2011
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EN said:
It's snowing here now and you post this? 
Ditto: The roads are closed, 60MPH wind, and 14" of snow today, total white'out.  
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LOOK: Start to get wrapped around the idea that it was over in the Fall of 2008. This is just the dying quivers. Stop waiting for "IT" to happen, "IT" already happened.
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8:13 pm April 7, 2011
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Mama nature is doing her best Febuary impression this week. But got herbs and the indoor salad pot/bucket started. The little citrus trees are happy and growing quicker than I anticipated. Grabbing another raised bed and some more soil tommorow and Lowe's has a Battery powered little tiller for $99.00 I'm going to pick up. From what I have read of the ratings this should work fine for my little raised beds.
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11:07 pm April 7, 2011
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I doubled my garden this year from 240 sq' to a little over 500. I don't till the soil, and I have clay soil. What I do is that in this new section I will plant a bunch of nitrogen fixing legumes and then around November, I'll spread 2 bails of of hay. Next year the soil will be perfect for planting directly into it.
I have begun to collect coffee grounds from the office. I pour them into a 5 gallon bucket with water and pour the tea directly on the the trees or garden. I think it is better than buying nitrogen fertilizer since it comes with salts that eventually render the top soil sterile and more dependent on more fertilizer. If you have a couple of acres, of course, pouring coffee grounds may not be feasible. In that case you can try companion gardening with nitrogen fixing plants.
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11:44 pm April 7, 2011
| Jedi
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Post edited 11:47 pm – April 7, 2011 by Jedi
pm97 said:
Anyone have suggestions on a tiller? What's a good brand?
I rented a 4-Cycle Mantis from a local hardware store, and it did the job just fine. It depends on how large of an area you need to till and what kind of soil you have, but it worked for me.
My Dad has an old full-size Honda tiller, and it starts up right away every year with little or no maintenance. The tiller had no problem with his soil, which practically takes to get through.
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"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." -John Quincy Adams
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9:00 am April 8, 2011
| Jarhead
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Post edited 9:02 am – April 8, 2011 by Jarhead
I have three tillers, a Mantis, an old Craftsman front tine tiller that I put a Honda motor and one that mounts on the back of my tractor.I use the tractor to till the garden in the spring, then I use the craftsman to till between rows after the plants come up. The Mantis is used around plants and in close place that you would normality have to use a hoe.
The size of the garden would dictate the tiller I bought if I could have but one. For a small garden I would choose the Mantis, for a larger garden I would choose a medium size rear tine tiller.
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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2:01 pm April 8, 2011
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I just got my little Black & Decker home. Plugged in the battery and put it last couple of parts on and did a quick little test and it worked great on my raised bed considering it still needs the 18 volt battery charged. Checked out on a weedy flower bed and it cut through the turf and was diging into the soil though it was bogging down a bit due to lack of charge. Plus I got an extra 18 volt battery for free with my purchase!!
I think this will work out for me the charge lasts about 30 minutes from what I have read in the ratings, so it should last about as long as I can. For small square foot/raised beds and flower beds I think it will work out well.
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8:07 am April 11, 2011
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What a weekend…got my seedlings started (yes: late as ususal but i think it was in time). I'm trying for 20 roma tomato plants so I can can tomato, spaghetti, and pizza sauce with this type tomato (one of the few things my wife will eat!). Got the potatoes and onions in one of the raised beds (5x10x1.5). The ground could've been a lot looser on the soil but it had rained the day before (hard) so I tried to mix some potting soil in with it to give it some starting fertilizer and loam. It's hard to work around the weather, planting schedules, and a full time job on top of that, in order to get it right but proper planning is all part of the learning process. Besides, what the hell else am I going to do? (Druid would say that instead of wasting my time in the garden, I should get a second job instead…he might be right from a productivity standpoint but there ain't nothing like bringing fruit from the earth, by the work of your own hands on your own land). Also turned the compost pile (next years batch). It's too small, I need to find a local supplier of horse manure and add leaves to it. Looking at investing in a mulcher for the leaves and many stems and limbs in my surrounding woods. And that minitiller would be perfect for the size I want to cultivate.
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The United States' I grew up in no longer exists…click your heals, Dorothy: you're not in Kansas anymore!!
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12:54 pm April 11, 2011
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..7IN_9s8C8E
Pete,
I was wanting a tumbler composter to make topsoil faster than a compost pile but they are expensive to buy and the ones I saw HORIZONTAL would need fins inside to agitate as they tumble ……so while thinking about it I found this idea and googled it. This VERTICAL compost tumbler looks easy to make and should turn out great topsoil about 20 – 30 gallons of it every 2 to 3 weeks.
I will make mine high enough to dump it right into the wheel barrel.
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2:06 pm April 11, 2011
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Crab Apple said:
This VERTICAL compost tumbler looks easy to make and should turn out great topsoil about 20 – 30 gallons of it every 2 to 3 weeks.
I will make mine high enough to dump it right into the wheel barrel.
Thanks, Crabby: I'll check it out when I get home (at work now and there's a block from watching video's). I have to admit though, not having used one of these, I'm a tad bit skeptical. The quickest I've been able to compost leaves was about a year and had to add lots of manure to the pile to get it all to decay, but this thing will do it in 3 weeks? Does it depend mostly on what you're trying to compost? I could use something that would speed up the process 'cause it's getting costly to keep buying these !amn soil amendments .
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The United States' I grew up in no longer exists…click your heals, Dorothy: you're not in Kansas anymore!!
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2:38 pm April 11, 2011
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Pete,
This process is smaller scale than a pile but much faster because it is aerobic in that the material is tumbled and gets air to the biologicals that break the stuff down.
If you are composting stuff like kitchen scraps yard clippings weeds and manure it will break down in 2 to 3 weeks especially if you add some "live" compost to get the bacterial stuff started AND have it in the sun. If you are doing woodchips and twigs and tougher stuff it will take much longer.
I am going to make mine on a 2 x 4 platform that is mobile.
I will still keep the compost piles going but I am going to make at least one of these tumblers.
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9:38 pm April 12, 2011
| Jedi
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Crab Apple said:
Pete,
This process is smaller scale than a pile but much faster because it is aerobic in that the material is tumbled and gets air to the biologicals that break the stuff down.
If you are composting stuff like kitchen scraps yard clippings weeds and manure it will break down in 2 to 3 weeks especially if you add some "live" compost to get the bacterial stuff started AND have it in the sun. If you are doing woodchips and twigs and tougher stuff it will take much longer.
I am going to make mine on a 2 x 4 platform that is mobile.
I will still keep the compost piles going but I am going to make at least one of these tumblers.
Crab Apple, if you have the time and/or desire, the process of building your vertical compost tumbler would make for a great blog post, especially with a few pictures. Just a thought…
The guy in the video said he got his 50 gallon drum free from a Coca-Cola plant. Has anyone tried to walk into a Coke plant and ask for one of these? There is a Coke plant in Fort Worth, but I thought I'd see if anyone else has had success with the Coke plant method, or if the guy in the video might have just known someone.
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"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." -John Quincy Adams
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8:23 am April 13, 2011
| Jarhead
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Great find Crabby, I love it. I'm going to build me one and if I like it I'll build another. I don't have much "green"for my compost, I feed the corn stalks, bean stalks etc to the hog or goats the table scraps go to the chickens any suggestions?
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" When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and it's speaker a raving lunatic." Dresden James
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9:11 am April 13, 2011
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Jarhead,
You can use fresh manure as the green and leaves for the brown but don't use hog dog cat or human as they all have the dangerous parasite problem … but that can be dealt with or simply used in an orchard or forest (fertilizing sugar maples or white oaks) as that way you avoid the possibility of putting parasites in contact with your veggies.
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